Not exactly a "technical" role - Technical Solutions Engineer Google Employee Review

4.0
Jun 23, 2022
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Pros

I was a TSE at GCP. I have listed the pros and cons of the role below. As you can see, the cons outweigh the pros, which is why I left for a different role within Google. 1. Great way to get your foot in the door in Google. The interview process is relatively easy (compared to SWE) and they are hiring at a fast pace. (UPDATE - Recently there has been news that they are limiting hiring in the USA and have even let go of some employees) 2. Great way to learn how a growing Cloud enterprise operates. 3. Get the Google brand on your work experience.

Cons

1. Not really a technical role. You basically resolve customer issues. There is almost no coding. This is great for people who are not technically inclined but still want to get paid well for support work. But it drained me as I did not feel challenged and had nothing to actually learn as I believe that the only way to learn is to implement things. I am surprised by how many of my fellow TSEs (with MS degrees) were OK with this sort of work. 2. No opportunities to learn and grow by building a project from scratch. This may seem like a copy of the first point but it's not. Before joining Google Cloud, I had 4 years of experience as a Software Engineer and a Data Engineer at multiple companies. In all of them, you either had a new or relatively-new project that you got assigned to and you contributed to its development. Watching your project grow and get to production is an important part of being an engineer and why I love my line of work. But this is not possible when you are flooded with cases that you need to resolve. Google does allow 20% of your time to work on projects outside of your work, but unless you come up with an idea to benefit your own sub-organization (i.e. Cloud Support), you cannot really include that work in your year-end performance review. I am observing a pattern where GCP is focussing more on hiring interns straight out of college. The good thing is that it prevents them from hiring experienced over-qualified engineers for support work. The bad thing is that many new engineering graduates will accept the fact that solving customer cases is true engineering work and will never venture outside of this proverbial well. 3. Lot of churn in employees. Based on the above 2 points, employees are dissatisfied. I have seen quite a few people either leave Google or move to a different role after less than 2 years. This reinforces my belief that I am not the only one who feels the same way about this role. This is even true even for senior leadership. During my time working there, I saw a lot of changes in the leadership structure. 4. Customers are not the most patient people in the world. This is especially true when they are facing an issue and they have asked you to resolve it. I had a particularly bad experience when on a customer call, the customer talked to me like I was a waiter who had made a mistake with his order. Not all customers are like this, but it takes only one to make you rethink your career choices.

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Pros

1) Food, food, food. 15+ cafes on main campus (MTV) alone. Mini-kitchens, snacks, drinks, free breakfast/lunch/dinner, all day, errr'day. 2) Benefits/perks. Free 24:7 gym access (on MTV campus). Free (self service) laundry (washer/dryer) available. Bowling alley. Volley ball pit. Custom-built and exclusive employee use only outdoor sport park (MTV). Free health/fitness assessments. Dog-friendly. Etc. etc. etc. 3) Compensation. In ~2010 or 2011, Google updated its compensation packages so that they were more competitive. 4) For the size of the organization (30K+), it has remained relatively innovative, nimble, and fast-paced and open with communication but, that is definitely changing (for the worse). 5) With so many departments, focus areas, and products, *in theory*, you should have plenty of opportunity to grow your career (horizontally or vertically). In practice, not true. 6) You get to work with some of the brightest, most innovative and hard-working/diligent minds in the industry. There's a "con" to that, too (see below).

Cons

1) Work/life balance. What balance? All those perks and benefits are an illusion. They keep you at work and they help you to be more productive. I've never met anybody at Google who actually time off on weekends or on vacations. You may not hear management say, "You have to work on weekends/vacations" but, they set the culture by doing so - and it inevitably trickles down. I don't know if Google inadvertently hires the work-a-holics or if they create work-a-holics in us. Regardless, I have seen way too many of the following: marriages fall apart, colleagues choosing work and projects over family, colleagues getting physically sick and ill because of stress, colleagues crying while at work because of the stress, colleagues shooting out emails at midnight, 1am, 2am, 3am. It is absolutely ridiculous and something needs to change. 2) Poor management. I think the issue is that, a majority of people love Google because they get to work on interesting technical problems - and these are the people that see little value in learning how to develop emotional intelligence. Perhaps they enjoy technical problems because people are too "difficult." People are promoted into management positions - not because they actually know how to lead/manage, but because they happen to be smart or because there is no other path to grow into. So there is a layer of intelligent individuals who are horrible managers and leaders. Yet, there is no value system to actually do anything about that because "emotional intelligence" or "adaptive leadership" are not taken seriously. 3) Jerks. Sure, there are a lot of brilliant people - but, sadly, there are also a lot of jerks (and, many times, they are one and the same). Years ago, that wasn't the case. I don't know if the pool of candidates is getting smaller, or maybe all the folks with great personalities cashed out and left, or maybe people are getting burned out and it's wearing on their personality and patience. I've heard stories of managers straight-up cussing out their employees and intimidating/scaring their employees into compliance. 4) It's a giant company now and, inevitably, it has become slower moving and is now layered with process and bureaucracy. So many political battles, empire building, territory grabbing. Google says, "Don't be evil." But, that practice doesn't seem to be put into place when it comes to internal practices. :(

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