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Would Not Recommend to a Friend - Coach Learning as Leadership Employee Review

1.0
Sep 14, 2020
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Pros

The team as a whole is composed of intelligent, hard-working, committed individuals who want to have a positive influence on the world. This is a great place if you want to gain experience working with corporate clients and esteemed nonprofit leaders. Flexible remote working options, though time at seminar is required. The 360° Feedback team is layered within the organization and has less direct contact with the owner/leaders. That team appears to be happy with their leadership.

Cons

Owners/Leadership is not credentialed or certified in psychology. Methodology and delivery of LAL tools are not coaching processes according to ICF guidelines of ethics or standards. Sales/enrollment practices go directly against ICF ethical standards. The sales/enrollment model is similar to that of a MLM organization with the senior coaches/facilitator/owners positioned at the top of the pyramid. Pay is lower than industry standards. The hours are long. There is a low value on acknowledgement, praise and appreciation. Owner/Leaders are results focused and tend not to celebrate success; their own or that of others. Single women are praised for their appearance and attractiveness, though less so for quality of work. Employees receive feedback on a wide variety of issues, some of which are personal and would be considered inappropriate in a corporate setting. Micro management is significantly high. Feedback is often vague, unclear and/or confusing. Feedback from owner/leaders is viewed as valid and reliable, but when feedback is offered in return, it is discounted with the view that the employee’s “ego” is activated. At which point, extensive “ego processing” is required to further understand how his/her ego is filtering reality. Such conversations occur with the power gradient in the favor of leadership where one or more people who lead the organization attempt to “help” the employee understand his/her misconception of the situation. This is similar to what has been reported by former employees of other organizations such as EST, Landmark Forum, and NIXVM. These types of organizations, like LAL, use methods and technology that asks one to second guess their own “faulty” thinking at the forceful urging of the senior coaches/leaders/owners. These leaders, in the position of trainers, are then able to continuously call an employee’s thinking into question. In the wrong hands, these types of tools are dangerous. It leaves one open to coercion and manipulation by the leaders they put trust in to support them. At LAL, the intentions of the leaders can be trusted most of the time, as long as you are in full alignment with the wishes of the owner/leaders. But it is unlikely that you will be valued beyond what you can deliver for the organization and you will not be viewed as an equal among the leaders. There is a low value on original thinking. Coach/enrollers are hired to deliver methodology in a prescribed way. Deviation from script is frowned upon. Decision making processes of the team tend to be slow and complicated. Outside leaders hired to bring about change are quickly disempowered. The methodology can be helpful and offer employees and clients useful insights. Though, the tools tend to be heavy on diagnostics and low on actionable next steps. Some clients find the work life changing, others feel defeated and depressed. Support staff are overworked and under appreciated.

Learning as Leadership Response
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We were truly saddened to read your review and that this was your experience at LaL. While we do not believe your experience was the norm, it does not sit well with us and calls on us to revisit commitments we’ve made in the past and continually seek to do better. We appreciate (and agree with) what you’ve shared about the quality of the folks who work here, our positive intentions, and our shared commitment to results and impact for our clients. We do care deeply about supporting our clients and creating a positive environment for all team members. Thank you for recognizing this. Some of what you shared are historic blind spots and growth areas for us as a leadership team and company. We have been working on many of these areas in recent years and, while we still have plenty of room to grow, we are proud of the progress we’ve made. Here are just some of the efforts and improvements we’ve made recently: • Year-end company-wide experience and engagement survey, debriefed in an all-staff meeting • Weekly emails from leadership celebrating our hard work and successful engagements with clients • Ongoing conversations about the use of our tools across power gradients, both internally and in client organizations • Formation of cross-department and cross-level committee to explore and address internal dynamics at the company • Increased transparency across the board offering a window into decision making, strategic priorities, business health, hiring practices, DEI efforts, etc. • Ongoing efforts to offer salaries commensurate with industry averages, including re-evaluating incentive structures to reward and compensate those at all levels fairly We’ve heard (and felt!) that these initiatives have made a big difference for team members at all levels. And, we will continue to seek feedback and focus on making our company an even better place to work. While you offer some helpful feedback (and, frankly, reminders) for our company, you also present a number of criticisms that we would like to address directly: • We are in no way affiliated with ICF, and even pre-date them by a number of years. That said, ICF defines coaching as “partnering with clients in a thought-provoking and creative process that inspires them to maximize their personal and professional potential.” These are words we live by at LaL! • We do not claim to be psychologists, nor do we believe that being a psychologist is a prerequisite for providing the coaching and workshop experiences that we do. That said, many psychologists have participated in and enjoyed our workshops. Some have even invited us to collaborate on academic papers and have studied concepts related to our work. • Without going into the specifics of our commission structure, we can confidently say we are not an MLM or “pyramid” organization, plain and simple. We encourage any prospective employees to ask us about our commission structure and to make sure it works for them before joining the team. • From what we know of them, we believe that comparing LaL with EST, Landmark Forum, and especially NIXVM is not accurate, even calumnious, and not reflective of anyone on staff’s experience (based on numerous internal conversations, our anonymous company survey, etc.). • We are sorry that your experience was that “single women are praised for their appearance and attractiveness, though less so for quality of work.” While we would be extremely surprised if this represents the experience of any current team member, we will include a question about this in our next anonymous company survey to be 1000% sure. It’s important to us that we foster an inclusive work environment where all employees feel safe and seen. To anyone considering working with us, if you are concerned after reading this review, we recommend you reach out to any LaL team member on LinkedIn and ask them about their experience. Also, please read our “notes for prospective employees”, below, and check out our Glassdoor company profile when it goes live. We want you to be informed of the great aspects of working at LaL as well as our quirks, challenges, and growth edges. To the person who has written this review, we want to reiterate that we were disheartened to read about your experience at Learning as Leadership. We truly want all of our employees to have a great experience and that would have included you. We’re sorry for any ways that we missed the mark. Sincerely, The LaL Leadership Team A few additional notes for prospective employees: • We are a hard-working team who cares deeply about our mission and our clients. At times, this can mean long hours and full plates, but most employees do manage to maintain a good work/life balance. • One of the cornerstones of our coaching and facilitation approach is that we are not simply “consultants” or “experts”, but practitioners, which means we engage in our own self-reflection processes, including during training. This review is a reminder to us that encouraging employees’ reflection and growth can be a delicate balance, especially when power dynamics are involved. Our training has changed substantially since the commenter worked with us, but even so we will continue to be vigilant and in dialogue with current and future employees to recognize earlier when support starts becoming imposition. • We agree with the commenter when they say we don’t have a lot of bandwidth to integrate different methodologies and approaches. Sharing outside approaches isn’t frowned upon, but our priority is to offer a defined and consistent experience for our clients, centered around our time-tested methodology. We fully understand that this setup is not what everyone is looking for.

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5.0
Apr 17, 2021
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Pros

Learning as Leadership (LAL) morphed from a nonprofit hoping to make the world a better place, one more-enlightened person at a time, into a small company that serves the same mission. As a 360 Feedback Specialist, I was responsible for interviewing family members and colleagues of the company's clients, most of whom are sponsored by organizations wanting to improve leadership skills and team dynamics among top level and other key personnel. The company has less than 20 employees, both full-time and project/part time. Many of the employees are longterm, and there is a very strong family feeling throughout. My colleagues are unfailingly kind and well intentioned, not only in the work we do, but in their interactions with each other. I've never worked at a company where the leadership was so transparent about their thoughts, questions, and perceived strengths and weaknesses. The company conducts an annual all-staff survey, and takes seriously even minor suggestions for improvement. On the Feedback team, our manager made the creation of team spirit a priority and even though I've just left due to other professional opportunities, I built close relationships with my fellow Feedback specialists and others in LAL and plan to stay connected with them in the future. The opportunity to have deep conversations with our clients' family and professional circles was always fascinating, and I felt fortunate to engage in such deep conversations while contributing to the personal and professional growth of our clients. Further, even though I had significant experience as a qualitative researcher before joining LAL, I was able to learn some new/tweaked interviewing techniques that I am applying outside of LAL. Finally, a huge per of working for LAL is that they pay a modest stipend for employees to participate in the workshops that they offer client, including being assigned an individual coach. I learned a tremendous amount from participating in the Personal Mastery workshop, and grew personally and professionally. Having first hand verification of the effectiveness of LAL's programs is very motivating, as an employee, Logistically, LAL was very accommodating in allowing me to accept projects when it was convenient given my outside work. They try to give project-based employees as much or as little work as they can handle at a given time, subject to their need to get work done well and on time.

Cons

Feedback into my performance as I learned and practiced the specific requirements for LAL interviews and the resulting written deliverables could be clearer and more consistent.

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4.0
Jan 4, 2021
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

First and foremost, the main pro for me is working in a learning environment. I just love personal growth and development! We are immersed in the methodology daily, have one another's support, and can use what comes up for us to explore further. Beyond that, it is a real joy to watch our clients grow and develop as well as seeing their teams prosper. That is a real benefit to me! Finally, as a family-owned business there is a lot of care and concern for everyone as part of the family.

Cons

Cons The con on the flip side of the family-owned business is the strong preference for consensus and decisions by committee which can slow down decision making or organizational evolution over time. This can inhibit growth for the business and limit development opportunities for the staff.

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