Good hard working peers, atrocious management - Payroll Specialist Fourth Employee Review

2.0
Sep 10, 2015
Recommend
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Pros

Good people to work with. Good nights out. Good clients with good relationships. Good product, needs work, but a great concept.

Cons

I can't speak for the London office, but the bureau in Macclesfield became soul destroying. I worked there for over 3 years, first 2 were fantastic then the management changed, turnaround of about 60- 80 staff in the time I worked there which speaks for itself in an office that holds 60 members of staff. No people management, No bonuses (no matter what is promised) The management will overwork you if your capable, I have seen the strongest of personalities break.

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Fourth Response
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The employees of Fourth are some of the best people you could work with anywhere and I'm pleased this was reflected in your experience with us. In terms of our Bureau Operation in Macclesfield, we now have 2 senior leaders that support that Director of Bureau as well as a team of highly experienced payroll managers and supervisors. In addition, we have a CiPP approved payroll academy which can take someone through from a trainee with no experience to a fully accredited payroll manager. Whilst we don't have a formal bonus system, we regularly reward employees that truly embody our values - simple, honest, quality, enjoy. We aim to recognise the efforts people make frequently and fairly. As you advise, we will continue to look for ways to improve the employee experience at Fourth.

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